Slow nine

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This is a page about fast and slow nines.

nicholas wrote this little excerpt describing the issue:

An alternative version of the conventional Enneagram has been proposed and discussed in our group for the past several years. Mostly implying refinements and further concepts consistent with the conventional system (as taught starting with Ichazo and Naranjo over the past forty-plus years), this new system incorporates two changes: Naranjo's type-wings are modified, and Enneagram Type Nine is taken to be better described as two separate types - "Fast Nine" and "Slow Nine". (The new system thus technically involves no longer an Enneagram [nine-sided figure] but a "Dekagram" [ten-sided figure].) Briefly, both of these types - "Fast" and "Slow" Nine - share a central trait of conflict-avoidance, but one of them ("Fast Nine") tends specifically to avoid conflicts with groups and with other people, while the other ("Slow Nine") tends to avoid conflict within the self. We will recap more details on this distinction, as needed, at the meeting.

and he also wrote this sheet of information contrasting the two types:

bolded are my comments which should be taken with a grain of salt.

informally Fast Nine Slow Nine
more formally "The Flexible Participant" "The Accommodating Mediator"
qualities (from most to least healthy) *receptive
*reassuring
*complacent (cynical)
*repressed
*communicative
*expressive
*exaggerative
*deluded
basic issue ease versus difficulty (worry) groundedness versus fantasy (wish-fulfillment)
basic orientation peace (union) in relation to environment (i.e. physical, cultural and social)
this is best interpreted as the fixation of the fast nine, which is the classic nine-ish notion of needing to have an immediate environment free of conflict
peace (unity) in relation to the individual's own immediate lived experience
best interpreted as the fixation of the slow nine -- the nine-ish need for a clear sense of self and lack of awareness of one's own presence or the importance of one's own ideas, and a tendency to lose sight of the qualities of oneself or one's perspectives in favor of everyone else's.
space issues if gut types express difficulties with the amount of space available for them to live and express themselves, and nines express an inhibited, withdrawn attitude because of perceiving a lack of space, the type of space that fast nines lack is immediate physical space -- they do not want to precipitate conflict, they do not want anyone angry at them, etc. More directly they appear *awkward*, with a tendency to not know where they fit in which causes them, as normally very receptive and cheerful people, to be widely "disliked" for their unassumingly diffident activities. the type of space that slow nines lack is not immediate physical space but space for themselves in a way that is classically associated in a vague way with conventional nines -- there is no space for their own views amongst the truth of many other people's views, there is no space for the value or importance of their own lived experiences amidst the confusion and overload of life's stories and characters.
cognitive style inductive/ "bottom-up" - based on details, especially in the physical world deductive/"top-down" -- based on big-picture thinking
emotional style conflict-avoidant, gentle, "busy", may appear frank and friendly, may also be brisk, "no-nonsense" in action; likely easily made to feel self-conscious when at center of attention, though appreciative of verve and personal style in others; brittle, nervous and/or passive-aggressive (hiding intentions) if under stress dynamic, multi-perspectival, "soft", highly variable in affective style, sensitive to the interlocutor, may be charismatic in an energized way, though also in other ways shy or laid back; likely easily connects, empathizes with others (at least superficially); more volatile, possibly impatient and/or snappy if under stress
typical manifestation of traditional passion of "sloth" deficit of higher-level vision; "closedness", unwillingness to contemplate expansive possibilities (e.g. greater liberation than currently experienced) -- sloth with respect to the full space of possible experience
deficits with respect to the space of possible experience due to need to maintain a harmonious and conflict-free environment, unwillingness to push themselves to precipitate conflict/discomfort
deficit of consistent, focused attention to details of life unfolding in the present moment; unwillingness to adjust inner rhythm to the exigencies of outer needs and commitments -- sloth with respect to constant attention to the time of life as it is actually unfolding
deficits with respect to time are due to the inability to extract one's own perspectives from multiperspectival truths, inability to see self and find value in own perspectives or value in their embodied moment-to-moment experience. sloth is best interpreted as a deficit of inner *concentration* towards the deep interests of the self, and an unwillingness to examine the self or to preemptively commit the self to any path of action.
test one: style of self expression earnestness (though not "seriousness") irony (degree may depend on interlocutor)
test two: attitude about work tends to hide effort ("don't let them see you sweat") tends to make maximum display of effort (can be part of exaggerative style)
test three: obstacles in intimate relationships tendency towards dependency on significant others tendency towards denigration of significant others
intra-type wing separator quality (inner) excitement as typically expressed about state -- high with a 7 wing and low with a 5 wing
this "excitement" can also be thought of as the exemplification of the quality of busy-ness.
(outer) excitability as typically elicited in interaction -- high with a 1 wing and low with a 4 wing
this deserves further explanation; slow 9s are by definition "slow" rather than excited but with a 1 wing display the expressive, exaggerative and effusive qualities when presented with environments or stimuli that can bring about a "fun" attitude. put another way, "excitable" people are easily brought into action.
examples according to nicholas *Ronald Reagan
*Gerald Ford
*Peter Jennings
*Ingrid Bergman
*George Burns
*Mel Brooks
*Barack Obama
*Jimmy Carter
*Anderson Cooper
*Meryl Streep
*Steve Martin
*Bill Murray